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august 21, 2011. admin@dinarguru. permalink. iraqi dinar.
... or the ecnomy will fail and the dinar will devalue. shabibi submited the rv
to the goi and to parliament last week.they return on the 6th i thought that is
two weeks. this is the end ...
Jester's Place Jester: HAPPY THURSDAY MODS, PEEPS, LURKERS, AND
CRITTERS....
[gwc] Jester you ask me last
night for a question....what influence does the brics have on the trn...thanks.
[Jester] THE BRICS HAS NO
INFLUENCE AT ALL... THE TRN IS AN ASSET BACKED CURRENCY THAT DOES NOT CORRELATE
TO THE RESERVE...
[Jester] UNLESS THE US HAS A
THOUGHT ABOUT JOINING THE BRICS... HAHAHAHAHAHA
[Jester] WHICH MIGHT BE A GOOD
THING BUT OUR LEADERS ARE TOO STUPID TO CONSIDER IT..
[nancy] Jester If the TRN is an
asset backed currency, could the wait be because there's not enough assets yet? ....
[Jester] nancy I DOUBT THAT TOO... THE
RATE IS BASED ON THE ASSETS SO IT IS A KNOWN RATE hoot2602] Jester I'm wondering if, perhaps, the RV is being
held up for a positive reason instead of a negative reason? What if the UST is
holding it up while trying to negotiate a higher TRN value?
[Jester] hoot2602 I DOUBT THAT
IS THE REASON... IT IS ALL SET... THE UST RATE IS KNOWN...
[lulu] Jester do you know the
rate? Of the TRN
[Jester] lulu YES BUT
THAT IS A REALLY STRANGE QUESTION BECAUSE THE RATE IS THE SAME...
[hoot2602] Jester who serves as
the referee to determine each country's currency value?
[Jester] hoot2602 THE WORLD...
IMF FOR NOW... UNLESS THE BRICS TAKES OVER...
[hoot2602] Jester I think
people are confusing the absolute value of a dollar as opposed to its value
against another currency.
[Jester] hoot2602 I WOULD AGREE
WITH THAT....
[hoot2602] Jester Do you think
the Jackson Hole meeting really has any impact on an RV?
[Jester] hoot2602 NOT
REALLY.... DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES....
[gwc] Jester when on
forex sites...the usd/iqd moves up or down..thats the usd moving..right or
wrong.
[gwc] not the iqd [Jester] gwc GOT A LINK?
[gwc] Jester no sir..just have
forex on my list to look at every morning
[gwc] i guess forex.com....i
dunno know!
[Jester] gwc I AM DOUBTING YOU
ARE AT THE LEVEL THAT WILL SIGNAL SOMETHING CHANGING....
[SoldierofChrist] Jester does
dinarland purposely get in sync to display the same false info so everyone
would believe it, could that be their plan??? Or do they truly believe what
they say???
[SoldierofChrist] Jester im
just wondering if there is a strategy that im not seeing lol
[Jester] SoldierofChrist I
BELEIVE SOME ARE PURPOSELY MISLEAD... AND THERE ARE A LOT THAT TRULY BELIEVE
WHAT THEY THINK.... RIGHT OR WRONG... MOST OF THEM ARE GOOD PEOPLE.... THEY DO
NOT MEAN TO BE MISLEADING PEOPLE... BUT THEY ARE CAUGHT UP IN THE COMFIRMATION
BIAS....
[SoldierofChrist] Jester Once
the Feds flop what will happen to social security,and medicare will it exist, I
ask because im in the biz
[Jester] SoldierofChrist SURE
IT WILL FOR A WHILE.. NOONE IS LOOKING TO HURT ANYONE HERE..
[SoldierofChrist] Jester
ok thank God because a lot of people depend on that help
[gwc] Jester you are
right...the forex trading site that i have says at 8.20 pm tonight..the iqd
against the usd is 1139.100 it is on forex trading charts.com
[Jester] SoldierofChrist THIS
IS NOT DESIGNED TO HURT ANYONE... THEY DO NOT WISH FOR ANY LOSS OF LIFE...
[SoldierofChrist] Jester What
does the Fed have to do with Social Security? Plenty
Subject: Nadita File - 08/21/2014 - The Spin Starts Here
:)
Nadita File – 08/21/2014
Brought From Dinar Daily
Good evening everyone, thanks
for watching Nadita File where the spin starts here Smile
Ukraine Crisis :
Texas1 reported authorities says some Russian trucks in a massive
aid convoy have begun to clear customs at a rebel held border crossing in
eastern Ukraine.
Israel – Gaza Showdown :
Gymrat76541 heard Hamas says three of its senior military leaders
killed in Israeli airstrikes in Gaza. Could be major blow to Hamas. ~~~
Other News : Chess is
attending top central bankers and economists kick off meeting in Jackson Hole,
Wyoming. Fed Chair Janet Yellen scheduled to speak on Friday. K.C. Fed Pres.
George says a lot of market complacency about path of future rate hikes. Don’t
want Fed to be behind the curve in normalizing policy. Key issues are : labor
slack, dangers of low rates, regulation vs rate hikes, when to hike and market
complacency.
Genx4me just learned Pres.
Obama sent special operations troops to Syria this summer to rescue American
hostages, including James Floey. Hostages were not located. Special ops forces
engaged in fierce gun battle with ISIS fighters. Hostages had been moved, one
minor wound was the only US casualty. FBI Director Comey says FBI has been
investigating American hostages in Syria for two years. Calls Islamic terror
group “savages”.
Grand jury has begun hearing
evidence on whether Ferguson, MO police officer should be charged in death of
unarmed black teen. Protests over shooting much calmer last night. There were
six arrests, compared to 47 the previous night.
Benjamin NutnYahoo was
with AG Eric Holder visited Ferguson, MO on Wednesday. He met with officials
investigating death of Michael Brown and met with his parents.
Federal judge overseeing
Argentina bond dispute schedules hearing for today. Holdout bondholders claim
Argentina is ignoring his prior orders.
A wildfire 50 miles northeast
of Bakersfield, California burning in steep terrain. 5 Square miles scorched,
now 15% contained.
Littlesam read AAA says 34.7M
Americans will journey 50 miles or more from home during Labor Day Holiday.
Highest volume since 2008, up 1.3% from 2013.
Dow gained 60 points today,
closing at 17039.49. Gold closed at $1,279, silver at $19.44, and copper at
$3.20. Crude oil was down 13 cents today, closed at $93.83.
Auxilium Pharma drug showed
significant improvement in smoothing cellulite in mid stage study. The stock
went up 4.5%, closing at $18.57. ‘
Ebay is telling potential
PayPal CEO candidates that a spinoff could come as soon as next year.
Springbank wonders what’s going
on with Family Dollar (FDO) rejects Dollar General’s (DG) $78.50/share takeover
bid on anti-trust concerns. The feud goes on between Dollar families as Family
Dollar reaffirms support for existing deal with Dollar Tree (DLTR).
Dollar General questions motive
of Family Dollar CEO in backing takeover bid from Dollar Tree. Dollar General
claims FDO’s Howard Levine driven by self-interest in supporting Dollar Tree
bid.
Ex Aeropostale (ARO) exec gets
8 years in prison for $25M in kickbacks from a key vendor. Ford planning new
hybrid for late 2018 to compete with Toyota’s best selling Prius.
Wiljor feels it’s about time to
give the kids a raise as JPMorgan and BOA corp plan to hike salaries of junior
employees by at least 20%.
Icahn says Hertz Global (HTZ)
shares undervalued, will talk to management about accounting and other issues.
Saint reported BOA reaches
record $17B settlement over sale of mortgage backed securities. BOA to pay
$9.65B in cash, provide consumer relief valued at $7B. BOA Q3 earnings to be
reduced by $5.3B before taxes or $0.43/share due to settlement.
AG Eric Holder acknowledged it
knowingly misrepresented and sold toxic loans. Deal also resolves SEC
securities fraud charges filed last year.
Countrywide co-founder Angelo
Mozilo to face civil suit over loans. US Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles is
preparing the civil case vs Mozilo.
Other Countrywide employees may
be charged. In 2010, Mozilo agreed to $67.5M settlement to resolve charges of
duping investors.
A-J516 is not surprised to hear
51 UPS stores hit with a data breach exposing cardholder and personal
information. Data breach happened in stores in 24 states between January 20 and
August 11.
Procter & Gamble (PG)
reiterated a buy with $92 price target at Argus. Home Depot (HD), Lowe’s (LOW)
and Sherwin Williams (SHW) are at all time highs
From Dinar land :
US military launched new barrage of airstrikes in Iraq against
ISIS. Pres. Obama says ISIS is a cancer threatening the region. Vietnam1969
predicted that liberation of Tikrit in Salaheddin province is the beginning of
the road to defeat ISIS.
Stealthwarrior and his team
together with sandfly firing Tbombs engaged in fierce battle with ISIS
resulting in worker bees sleeping forever.
More Americans and prominent
politicians are supporting an increase airstrikes against ISIS that is killing
anyone who doesn’t believe in the same evil and twisted of their thinking. In
the meantime, Kurdish peshmerga forces who started to receive weaponry from
Iraqi army and western countries are coordinating with US air force to do the
same in the north.
Babel Security forces said they
have arrested some terrorists who came to the city of Hilla under the disguise
of displaced people. Calkid11 can’t believe amongst the arrested were 8 women
who joined ISIS to provide sex to ISIS fighters.
A number of historic mosque,
churches and shrines were destroyed by ISIS as they occupied cities and towns
in the north. Some of these churches date back to the dawn of Christianity.
Security forces also said they have
liberated Haditha dam and the nearby refinery in northwest of Ramadi in Anbar
province.
Ministry of Human Rights is
compiling a list of terrorists individually or countries who support them to be
presented to UNSC scheduled to meet early next month in Geneva to address
terrorism and those support them.
An economist Dr. Mathar Saleh
said the sale of government short and long term bonds and central bank auctions
will be instrumental and successful in raising monies to counter budget
deficit.
The ministry of Trade also
announced they have created a new system to expedite paperwork and detect fraud
and money laundering for imported goods coming to Iraq.
Captl1 heard oil is flowing
again from Kurdistan region to Ceyhan pipeline which will reach 200,000 BPD
with potential of 240,000 BPD. Iraqi Kurdistan will need as much as revenue
they can get to continue to fight against ISIS and help more than 600,000
displaced people that flooded the region after ISIS atrocities against minority
populations.
Executive Director of Standard
Chartered Bank International, Kevin Wishart said there are plenty opportunities
to invest in Iraq and its infrastructure. He stressed on the importance of
private banks taking a leading role in Iraq’s banking and promoting investments.
He also encouraged CBI and GOI to help private banks become more effective in
turning Iraq’s economy into a market economy.
Iraqi and regional economists
are able to take a deep breath as a reaction to the latest security
developments and the possibility of inclusive government.
From rumor land :
Millionday says CBI stated in press statement that they would
move forward with the economic reform and monetary policy with or without the
budget. Iraq is proving they are moving to enter the globe by being able to
wire money through smartphone apps electronically and also to sell and buy
foreign currency.
Frank26 thinks rate will be 1
to 1, 3+ would follow right behind it within fiscal year of time or much less.
TerryK thinks we stand a
great chance of this going down tonight or in the weekend according to what the
sources are telling him.
Exogen says on August 21st many
of the world’s most powerful financial players will gather for three days in
Jackson Hole, a mountain resort in Wyoming. The annual conference, which has
been going on since 1978, is a chance for central bankers, financial ministers,
and academics to talk about the world economy in a public but informal setting.
WMAwhite says Iraq is unable to pay for the power plant in
Euros or USD or even the IQD at 1166 rate, Iraq will go broke in a matter of
months.
The spin stops here Smile send
your comments to #naditafile, Dinar Thug is next, good night everyone Smile
G20
Edging Towards 'Bail-In' Global Banking Reform Deal
8/21/14 at 5:47 AM
Financial leaders join bank governors and other ministers from
around the world during the IMF and World Bank's Annual Spring Meetings in
Washington, 2014. Mike Theiler/Reuters
Government leaders are
expected to agree in November that the world's top banks must issue special
bonds to increase the amount of capital which can be tapped in a crisis instead
of calling on taxpayers to come to the rescue, industry and G20 officials said. The bonds, known as
"gone concern loss absorption capacity" or GLAC, are seen by
regulators as essential to stopping the world's 29 biggest lenders from being
"too big to fail".
The
plans are being drafted by the Financial Stability Board, the regulatory task
force of the Group of 20 economies which declined to comment ahead of a G20
summit in November, when G20 leaders will discuss the reform before it is put
out to public consultation.
The reform would put in
place the final major piece of G20 regulation on banking as the global body
turns to a "post-crisis" agenda of fostering economic growth and
bedding down the rules it has approved. There had been unease in
Asia and parts of Europe over how big the bond issues need to be to provide
this cushion but there is now a new optimism amongst bankers and regulators
that the G20 will reach a deal in November.
"The
industry is definitely in favor of making resolution, supported by an
appropriately flexible concept of GLAC, work. That is the key pending aspect on
ending too-big-to-fail," said Andres Portilla, director of regulatory
affairs at the Institute of International Finance, a Washington-based banking
and insurance lobby.
"What is likely to
happen is that there will be a consultative proposal, but without all the
detail that a lot of people would like," Portilla added. However, a G20 source
said a deal was not only expected but would also be more detailed than some
parties anticipate, which is essential for conducting a thorough impact
assessment before finalizing the rules. "The authorities and
the FSB are working to have a proposal that will contain sufficient granularity
of numbers to be a meaningful consultation and quantitative impact study to calibrate
the final rule," the source said. Top banks expect they
will have to hold GLAC bond capital equivalent to about 10 percent of their
risk-weighted assets on top of their core capital buffers which currently stand
at around 10 percent. But they hope for some leeway if they can show that they
can already be wound down smoothly in a crisis because of simplified
structures. The G20 source poured
cold water on this, saying regulators believe all the world's top 29 banks
earmarked for tougher supervision will need a significant cushion of such
so-called "bail-in" bonds for some time to show they can be shut
without public aid. Regulators ultimately
want to price bank debt better and end the cheaper funding that too-big-to-fail
banks enjoy because markets assume governments would never allow them to
collapse. END OF HEAVY LIFTING
Efforts
by the authorities so far are having an impact.
"We have been
lowering our systemic support assumptions for banks or changing their outlooks
to 'negative' to reflect the ongoing effort by governments to try to eliminate
that support," said Johannes Wassenberg, managing director of banking at
Moody’s credit rating agency in Europe. In May, Moody's lowered
its outlook to 'negative' on more than 80 banks in the European Union after the
bloc approved a law requiring banks to hold a buffer of potential bail-in debt
like GLAC. "Adopting GLAC is
the final chapter in reforming the condition of banks," said Thomas
Huertas, a former UK banks supervisor and now a regulatory consultant with EY. The plans for bail-in
bonds are among the last of what G20 officials call the "heavy
lifting" on banking industry reforms that came in the aftermath of the
financial crisis. With much of the work on
defining how to make banking safer completed, the G20's focus will shift to
implementation of its rules and behavior at banks after lenders were fined for
rigging the Libor interest rate benchmark, with similar allegations in the
currency markets now emerging.
"After
dealing with too big to fail, the next big section for the G20 is conduct and
there will be a shift in attention to that issue," Huertas said.
(Thank You For Sending To Recaps) You are welcome to post the below info if you agree it
should help dispel some fears. Thank you!
As a computer challenged
senior I am and have always been a phone person, though I am kind of ok with
direction. I called the US Treasury to find out if indeed the Sept 2nd
"bail-in is true.
After being given phone numbers
to call (none for the Federal Reserve Board and nothing posted at their site) I
tried the Treasury dept. who directed me with numbers to check with the fed
res. banks as they'd have been given this info.
No, was the same response
from all three after they put me on hold to investigate my questions.
Phila. Fed Bank, Chicago and
Richmond all dispelled and I was directed to Newsweek which would give an
explanation of the actual game plan for Nov of the G20.
I am providing the link after
doing my own due diligence.
I believe this should dispel
some fears ( as I had before my calls and research). I am now passing
this on as I am comfortable with the Newsweek's (today's) report. Hope this
helps and feel free to share the link and dispel Sept 2nd! It is not true! Have
a blessed day!
Mark August 21, 2014 I think
some of the best Intel has come after the picture clues. Exo is focusing on
insuring we all are prepared for what is coming....wealth management, choice of
least risky moves post RV. This to me is very telling....knowledge is good, but
using wisdom to apply that knowledge is critical. Maybe our last chance to
learn pre RV.
omegaman > Mark splicing all
the intel together tells me that the rate DID GO LIVE in AUSTRALIA 2.5 weeks
ago, as Exo stated, but for only 10 minutes; believe it or not; confidential
source; a Flick of the switch is all required, as the system does work; one
Party has moved the cheese; his last-ditch efforts are now run out; he can do
no more to move the cheese; this will go live DESPITE the USA's GREEN LIGHT;
for the Nations (Incl. the BRICS) want this; if This goes live on FOREX prior
to, and without consent of the USA, and then the USA will lose tremendous
influence, and as well, be penalized by International laws which they've
violated over, and over...expect good things SOONER, than later... ....
omegaman August 21, 2014 at 9:05pm
LATEST INTEL; The official Iraq newspaper wrote this morning that the new
Cabinet would be seated on Monday the 25th.The U.S. and IMF have stated they
will not release any funds (for the H. Bonds) until the Cabinet is seated; the
TRN's should be announced about the same time...thus...imo we are looking at
tuesday, the 26th as the backwall date...
LVegas > omegaman IMO with
the G20 meeting going on and the World being "pissed" at the US,
think will be sooner. Regardless of waiting for them to be seated, the
World knows all that are being seated. Just a formality.
Vaughn Carey > LVegas G77 is
pissed at the G20, Should be very Interesting EXOGEN > SOME DINARIANS WILL MAKE SMART DECISIONS BASED
ON A PLAN AND STRATEGY AND KEEP AND PROTECT THEIR MONEY, AND OTHERS WILL MAKE
BAD DECISIONS WITH NO PLAN AND STRATEGY AND LOSE THEIR MONEY.
REALITY WILL BE HERE
SHORTLY!!!!
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Jester’s Place:
[KMAN] Ottawa clears up
confusion over bank ‘bail-in’
[.SEDNET1] Well based on the
assumption that the RV occurs after Sept 2, and there are no addition (if any)
bail-in scenarios, we all should be in good shape. The information has been out
there. If people have not prepared, there is nothing we can do about it.
Object of the game is to do
your research now, find a bank or banks that have not been involved with these
toxic loans, derivitives, etc. and plan to do business with them. Don't forget
off-shore banking as well. I am looking into private banks in S Dakota, and
elsewhere. I believe the term is High Net Worth Private Bank (in general)
*****************************
KTFA:
benblessed1 » August 21st,
2014, Shalom Family- hmm I finally found a site that lists the derivatives
holdings for banks that is not a blog site.. Considering the possibility of
BAIL-INS it would be wise to see which banks are not holding trillions in
derivatives which could cause your deposits to be taken. DO NOT FEAR- PLAN and
PRAY!
As I have said for a very long time
and people are just now getting it...WHATEVER MEDICAL PROBLEM THE PEOPLE HAVE
IS THE CORPORATION DOING THEIR DE-POPULATION..THEY ARE THE ONES KILLING THE
PEOPLE, NO ONE ELSE..THE CORPORATIONS ARE THE ONES MAKING THE CAUSES FOR
CANCER, FLU, VIRUSES, ANY PROBLEM AND ALL MEDICAL PROBLEMS..WAKE-UP PEOPLE,
LEARN DIFFERENT WAYS TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PROBLEMS AND HEAL YOURSELF..THERE IS
NO SUCH THING AS THE FLU, VIRUS, BUGS...THE ONLY BUGS THERE ARE IS THE
CORPORATIONS AND WHAT IS RUNNING THEM..
UPDATE: As an example of really chilling
information, towards the end of the first hour, Michael relates that before
vaccinations a doctor remembers that there was virtually NO cancer! When I add
in the fact that disease does not grow in alkaline conditions and that we now
have acid rain — and our bodies are largely water . . . plus our food is
poisoned with chemicals and much of the fast food we eat is overly acid in
quality, a very sick picture emerges!
Michael offers
us chilling information. . . DO NOT MISS THIS ONE!!! ~J
Published on Aug 19, 2014 Thanks to V.
In
Program One, of the “Origins & Oracles” series, Michael Tsarion takes us on
a vivid journey back to the time of the lost continents of Atlantis and
Lemuria. On this journey, timeless mysteries are unraveled and explained like
never before. Masses of disinformation concerning pre-history and the origins
of humanity, which have duped scholars and researchers for generations, are
eradicated and we are finally able to connect the dots and comprehend how the
innumerable idioms of our modern world came into being. In the tradition of
Immanuel Velikovsky, Zechariah Sitchin, Jordan Maxwell, Graham Hancock and
Michael Cremo, Michael Tsarion investigates the true origins of mankind and
throws open doors which have been sealed for many an age.’
We are winning this global war to defeat those who are bent on exterminating the vast majority of humankind and enslaving the remainder.
Our adversary is mortally wounded and its days are numbered. In this brief NFK update however, Neil begins by reminding us of the clear and present danger we all still face, especially those of us on the front lines. And he implores Jean Haines and her associates to cease grinding the rumor mill which is essentially an act of aiding and abetting the enemy. “STOP IT!”
“Wall Street” is in the process of moving out of New York City to Stamford Connecticut, closer to home for the Gordon Gekko rats of the world. Maybe they’re privy to the news Neil discloses in this post about the Obama plan to impose martial law, shut down the banks and to unleash on the American public a variety of deadly diseases? The Wall Street shove-off from the island of Manhattan makes a lot sense then if all hell is about to be let loose!
Neil also updates us on the great progress made on the No-Fly Accords and mentions several positive changes which have ensued, following the filing of The Trillion Dollar Lawsuit and 2011 Monaco Accords. He will be leaving Jakarta soon in order to move things toward conclusion on the No-Fly Accords. There are currently 180+ nations ready to sign up!
Neil mentions the fact that whales and other sea life are being needlessly exterminated off the coast of Hawaii. His Majesty Edmund Keli’i Silva Jr.’ recently issued a stern admonition to the U.S. CORPORATION about the military’s use of sonar that’s responsible for the killing of marine life.
Increased pressure is being put on the Elders as Neil reminds them and us as well that Indonesian President Soekarno himself was only a holder for the Dragon Family! Twelve (12) more Elders names are released in our accelerated program to free up the global accounts for humanitarian purposes for which they were originally intended.
Aloha from The Keenan Team
Video Part One:
Video Part Two:
Pictures of the Gold Notes:
The names of TWELVE more elders:
Thirteenth Elder:
GPH GOERITNO HARIMOERTI
Identification Code 56400950. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 32009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979 C.D
Djakarta, 17, November 1960
Fourteenth Elder:
TJAKRA NINGRAT
Identification Code 56400951. A.045
Country Code Djakarta
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979 C.D.
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
Fifteenth Elder:
ARDJOENO HARI NOEGROHO
Identification Code 56400952. A. 045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979 C.D.
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
Sixteenth Elder:
TJAKRA BOEANA
Identification Code 56400923. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979. C.D.
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
Seventeenth Elder:
SATIBI
Identification Code 56400934. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979 C.D.
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
Eighteenth Elder:
SJOEKOER HARYANTO
Identification Code 56400935. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 343009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979 C.D.
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
Nineteenth Elder:
FH AKHMAD
Identification Code 56400936. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
Twentieth Elder:
SOESANTO/FX.SOESANTO
Identification Code 56400937 A. 045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979. C.D.
Djakarta, 17, November 1960
Twenty First Elder:
Nj. NASOETION
Identification Code 56400938. A. 045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979. C.D.
Djakarta, 17, November 1960
Twenty Second Elder:
SOETAN ALI HASAN
Identification Cod 56400940. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979. C.D.
Djakarta, 17, November 1960
Twenty Third Elder:
HAMBALI HAMZAH
Identification Code 56400941. A.045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979. C.D.
Djakarta, 17, November 1960
Twenty Fourth Elder:
BOEDI HARDJO
Identification Code 56400942. A. 045
Country Code Djakarta 342009771
Indonesia 45005
Special Code INA 045 A.I. 54445 Bank Tani dan Nelajan
Transaction Code 340080979 C.D.
Djakarta, 17 November 1960
All Elders assets are to be managed at the UNION BANK OF SWITZERLAND
LETTERS signed in accordance to MR. WILLIAM VOUNCHER’S
TESTIMONY
It is possible and most likely that many of the original names to be mentioned are individuals who have since passed away and the assets are now in the hands of their family members.
Therefore, the family members are demanded now to Cease and Desist their attempts to market the assets of the Global Accounts and/or the Soekarno Accounts.
DreamWeaver: Jt, hopefully XXXXX isn't insulted as I did not direct this at him personally, but the concept that Maliki is out of the country and there's some type of rouse to keep it looking as though he is ... well it's nonsensical to me in light of reports and my own intuition.
And as far as that great friend to dinarians being back in the country.
Anyone who read the threads yesterday already knows that Shabibi, the friend to our community, is about to be exonerated, so that point need not have been quite so cryptic and veiled in mystery, as there is no way for us to yet know if Shabibi is back in the country. All of this is just my personal opinion.
I'm not at all vested in any one viewpoint being true, as I'm coming from a purely objective perspective, so Mystic, there is nothing for me to let go of as I'm not holding any preconceived concepts. ~~~
And I'm certainly not going to just give intel-providers or anyone a pass when their posts are illogical.
That was the entire point of my post and whether you or anyone else "knows where I stand" is irrelevant to why I post. If you view my post as being "critical" and I "need to let this all go" IMO that's a tactic to try and make questioning people like me, with no personal agenda, to just sit down and be quiet. That's not going to happen, Mystic, but I respect your right and everyone's right to see it that way. Best. DW.
Mike: Keep posting, DW, there is nothing wrong with asking questions and seeking the truth. This has been a pretty wild thread, there was a lot of effort to circumvent the news as it was reported to support the intel that started it.
Brule: Congress Nineveh: the popular movement kills 50 terrorists from Daash day
Thursday, 21 August / August 2014 13:25
Congress declared the province of Nineveh for the Kurdistan Democratic Party, on Thursday, for the popular movement of the population of the province killing 50 terrorists, gangs Daash day.
The MP said Knight friend at a news conference with deputies from his party building, the House of Representatives attended reporter Agency all of Iraq [where] that "the popular movement in the Nineveh liver terrorist groups large losses estimated at 50 people per day," calling "the Ministry of Commerce to provide food for all citizens in Nineveh. "
He asked the Ministry of Municipalities "to pay the salaries of the contracts have been suspended for three months in Nineveh," noting that "the province suffers from a lack of fuel, especially gasoline and therefore call for the treatment of this matter by the federal government, as well as also demand that health by providing drugs for all hospital Nineveh."
It is said that Nineveh province is witnessing more than two months and the security situation tragic because of the control of the terrorist gangs Daash to maintain what has led to the displacement of dozens of its residents to the http://alliraqnews.com/index.php/2011-04-18-02-57-37/144256--50-.html
Phillyman: Just curious, I would love to stay on the lojak train but how do you explain Italy's Prime Minister meeting with Maliki? Is he part of the coverup?
Rileysetter: Phillyman let's see:
1. It was a body double
2. It was staged event in another country
3. Its an old photo
4. M was flown in just for the photo op then flown back out to his current lodging 90 minutes by air from Baghdad
I may have missed it, but has anyone considered that the man may actually still be in Baghdad. I know this flies in the face of the exhalted "intel"... but come on.
DreamWeaver: Philly, IMO the explanation may not be forthcoming or the continuation of the same concept that Maliki isn't really there. Ignore reality. Accept illusion. All in an attempt to be right.
In all honesty, though, to me no proving needs to be done, either way, as that sometimes involves people having to set aside or embrace their preconceived ideas or beliefs. Tough to do.
But I've been doing that since childhood, so it's not tough for me. I just remain neutral, gathering data, weighing thoughts, comparing them to other thoughts, allowing my own logic and intuition to guide. It works. Been on track about a lot of things so far.
Up until yesterday, I was still on the fence about whether or not there was "a plan" in motion as carried to us by Lojak. Today, I'm not at all believing there is a plan as it feels too much like smoke and mirrors to me and once that feeling starts, I just push whatever is causing that feeling off to the side.
Personally not interested in trying to figure out WHY something doesn't ring true as that can be a Pandora box of muddled up half-truths. I'm just going to keep on doing what I'm doing, confident that the RV will happen but not at all aware of exactly how or when or at what rate.
Detached from all of that. Keeps me peaceful and open to possibilities. If it turns out that XXXXX or Tlar or Randy or Kap or anyone here was right in what they put forth, that would be fine with me.
I'm not into ego or needing to be right. I'm a detective, shifting through clues, looking for the truth with no personal agenda at all, which some will believe and others won't. All the same, eventually the truth stands in its own light. My purpose is to stand right there waiting for it to be revealed. Best. DW
Rockstar: Awesome replies DreamWeaver and thanks for sticking to your guns!!! You have every right to post exactly what you have and if people don't want to read the truth than they can't just pass it up just as the gurus state, if you don't like it than don't respond..lol
it just seems most really want to hear the secret intel and always take it as the gospel truth! I sure hope all these people with blinders on listen to this next message!!! After the RV please make sure you get very qualified wealth advisors and wealth management team in place ASAP!
Because just like the lottery winners 80% of you will be broke within 3 to 5 years! This is a one shot deal folks you will never have this opportunity again in your lifetime! While it is fun to listen to these people who have a crazy need to be idolized on a Dinar forum for their two minutes of fame....you Must use your common sense really!
Rileysetter, you are absolutely correct!!! It's so funny how people completely ignore the obvious or facts and would rather believe the intel...lol... And we wonder why the Jerry Springer show lasted on tv for so long!
Oldwazhisname: I really appreciate your common sense, DW. And having you articulate it so well helps put my own feelings in better perspective. The one thing I would like to add to this conversation is that if XXXXX Randy K and Tlar, or any other guru-type, really has the community’s best interests in mind they would speak up at some point to help the whole community realize what we’re all up against – bad intel and how to protect us all from it.
I’m not saying that they somehow assert this as a fraud (probably nearly all of us don’t believe that). But to the extent that they receive certain inside intel from sources and they, in turn, become mouthpieces for that intel (that has been proven wrong on key points – look, any intel purveyor can get a feel for direction and more or less get it right –
what I’m talking about is substantive deep perspective, like “The Plan”), they should have the integrity to come back to the community and explain some things.
Tlar has been great about explaining why he trusts his source and he is probably the best in the community at connecting the dots. Lojak says he has 5 -6 sources in the right places.
Randy speaks with such authority. If this latest key precuser event turns out to evolve into another explanation that “the plan has changed” outcome, I would hope that the guru-types who are thinkers and closer to the situation than any of us would try to explain the how and why and help protect the community better from bogus intel providers.
Not bashing XXXXX or Tlar for they just pass on what they believe is trustworthy intel. But they also are probably best to judge what went wrong and whether they were originally duped and just as importantly “why?”. This effort by even just one of them would distinguish that one from the rest of the pack.
Mike: For me, it's always been pretty simple, intel has never been right. Traditional sources are not fool proof, but when you see photo's and numerous sources pointing to an event that occurred, you can be reasonably confident that the news is right. Just once, I'd like the intel to prove true so that we can exchange these dinars and never think about Iraqi politics again.
Brule: The Ten Year Plan is a fact, and adherance to the plan is also a fact. If you take a wider look at what has taken place in Iraq, it is very impressive, and followed a plan.
I have said over and over that we see the chaos (Maliki) but there has been a a group moving forward with the plan. Don't listen to what they say, but listen to what they do.
Any "intel" will become blurred when dealing with an emerging and complicated country like Iraq, and a maniacal dictator, especially a dictator and his cronies that are scrambling to save their lives, literally, here at the end.
Unless you are the one pushing the button on the assassin squad, there is no controlling Maliki and his PR team, and delays and bumps are going to happen, and is what has happened IMO.
This is so typical of human nature to look for the salacious and sensational, rather than the boring trudge of progress.
Schiz: Nina has always been right, she has been my intel guru for a long long time now :)
If it aint on nina it aint true!
M was on nina meeting people in baghdad, what does that = to me...yup you guessed it, its TRUE :D
But who cares right?
Turki said he wants to see the new government, he hasn't got that yet. Makes no differrence if M is there or not.
I don't understand why him being out of country has been hyped up so much?! it doesn't matter!!
Turki didnt say when the government is settled and M is out of Iraq, did he?
He is the only guru you want to listen to!
HighFive: Brule, Agreed! And where there is a plan, there is sure to be politics involved.
My math:
Plan + Iraq (Maliki/GOI x CBI - S) Politics (USA X 10th power + (X2)G20) = RV + or - coming days.
The plan is subject to variables. Thanks Lojak for keeping us informed about what you know/hear.
Brenda: ...great post Brule..in a nutshell..logical..someone has a plan..and is carrying it out...we watch and wait..
Skylimit: Right on Brule, when the main actors in a plan go off course adjustments must be made. Iraq is a soverign country wrapped with US and Western interests, which can complicate the heck out of things. 95% of intel is BS and the great generals are great because they know which 5% to believe.
We are seekers here trying to figure out the 5% of intel that matters in this endeaver.
Two things we know for sure is that Iraq will not continue with an artificially low currency rate when they go international and both Iraq and the US needs this to happen.
Further, Maliki is out and O signed the Executive Order to release the DFI funds and remove Iraq from the OFAC list so O's now on board. Combine this with the ISX, banking and other economic upgrades now completed and I think we can infer we are closing in on completing the plan.
Mark August 21, 2014 I think some of the best Intel has come after the picture clues. Exo is focusing on insuring we all are prepared for what is coming....wealth management, choice of least risky moves post RV. This to me is very telling....knowledge is good, but using wisdom to apply that knowledge is critical. Maybe our last chance to learn pre RV.
omegaman > Mark splicing all the intel together tells me that the rate DID GO LIVE in AUSTRALIA 2.5 weeks ago, as Exo stated, but for only 10 minutes; believe it or not; confidential source; a Flick of the switch is all required, as the system does work; one Party has moved the cheese; his last-ditch efforts are now run out; he can do no more to move the cheese; this will go live DESPITE the USA's GREEN LIGHT; for the Nations (Incl. the BRICS) want this; if This goes live on FOREX prior to, and without consent of the USA, and then the USA will lose tremendous influence, and as well, be penalized by International laws which they've violated over, and over...expect good things SOONER, than later... ....
omegaman August 21, 2014 at 9:05pm LATEST INTEL; The official Iraq newspaper wrote this morning that the new Cabinet would be seated on Monday the 25th.The U.S. and IMF have stated they will not release any funds (for the H. Bonds) until the Cabinet is seated; the TRN's should be announced about the same time...thus...imo we are looking at tuesday, the 26th as the backwall date...
LVegas > omegaman IMO with the G20 meeting going on and the World being "pissed" at the US, think will be sooner. Regardless of waiting for them to be seated, the World knows all that are being seated. Just a formality.
Vaughn Carey > LVegas G77 is pissed at the G20, Should be very Interesting EXOGEN > SOME DINARIANS WILL MAKE SMART DECISIONS BASED ON A PLAN AND STRATEGY AND KEEP AND PROTECT THEIR MONEY, AND OTHERS WILL MAKE BAD DECISIONS WITH NO PLAN AND STRATEGY AND LOSE THEIR MONEY.
[.SEDNET1] Well based on the assumption that the RV occurs after Sept 2, and there are no addition (if any) bail-in scenarios, we all should be in good shape. The information has been out there. If people have not prepared, there is nothing we can do about it.
Object of the game is to do your research now, find a bank or banks that have not been involved with these toxic loans, derivitives, etc. and plan to do business with them. Don't forget off-shore banking as well. I am looking into private banks in S Dakota, and elsewhere. I believe the term is High Net Worth Private Bank (in general)
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benblessed1 » August 21st, 2014, Shalom Family- hmm I finally found a site that lists the derivatives holdings for banks that is not a blog site.. Considering the possibility of BAIL-INS it would be wise to see which banks are not holding trillions in derivatives which could cause your deposits to be taken. DO NOT FEAR- PLAN and PRAY! http://ibanknet.com/scripts/callreports/filist.aspx?
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