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12/16/2013
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805-399-1500 409029#
BlogTalkRAdio RECORDED LINK
Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:
T = TONY | C = CALLER
TONY - Good evening, TNT! I absolutely ready to do this call. [TONY is
sharing how a TNT member, , put Tony's number on Facebook and asked people
to call him, because he thinks he knows more than Tony and others on the
boards.
TONY - Last night several different countries were trying to negotiate some
things at the last minute... It was finally and signed last
night and we thought we'd see the 800#s. What we did see is that the IMF
said "we're not bluffing" and they released they outside the USA.
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That was NOT the plan.
Since that time I've gotten one UST source that they are doing it together.
The rate was absolutely released as an rate at 3.85. It is
currently live in Chile, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Australia, France, Belgium
and Kuwait. There are people in those countries exchanging their dinar.
T - Call centers are back at their call centers. At least 2 of them have
notified us that the 800#s will be released. Some say by tonight because of
the other countries and we have to play catch-up. When those rates reach
their banks here in the USA we have an option to go there and cashout. I
would think our guys want to get this going so those other countries get
our dinar and we lose the oil .
T - We have confirmations all over DC that this is happening. I just don't
have an hour when it will actually happen, but they are prepared. They will
be even more prepared when west coast banks close. None of that matters
now. Whether it was IMF alone or with the UST, the rate is out there. Our
$32 rate is now being called a contract rate. Some wanted us to get that
rate, others didn't.
T - Why would our gov't put that out there if they didn't want us to have
it? Some on the boards are saying this. There was another call elsewhere
telling people the rates will come out at .50 because the rich people don't
want us to be rich and influence the gov't. Really? At .50 there's going to
be a lot of millionaires who can influence. We'll still be the middle-class
rich. We know in Iraq the rate is $3.44 and is being changed to 3.85, which
we discussed weeks ago.
T - They don't use the USD anymore and they've been briefed. They get 3.44
when they go outside their country. All these other countries have 3.44
too. But we're the country who went over there, sacrificed our military
with boots on the ground. And they'll get 5-6 times what we get, according
to this other intel-provider? That's garbage. It doesn't make any sense.
[FLPatriot59] T - I like that somebody actually stood up and made it live
and said "we are doing this." They can't take it back. The
smaller countries with basic banking systems went immediately. The more
sophisticated banking systems are taking a little more time. They're saying
they've waited long enough. The minimum we're getting when it goes
international is 3.85.
T - I wanted to wait and get info about other things we're hearing, like if
you take the 3.85 because it started outside the country we may not have to
do the NDA. I'm still trying to find that out. I don't really know but most
people think if you take that rate you may not have to do the NDA. If you
take the contract rate there's still some controversy regarding the NDA
with that rate. There is debate about where that contract rate starts - I
don't have the info, even though it's going live.
T - What I'm getting right now is the rate for the IQD is minimum $5 and
$1.16 for the VND, if we don't get the contract rates or something else.
T - We don't know what the contract rates will be. Per a text I just
received from Ray - he's probably right. I shouldn't have said some things
but sometimes enough is enough. Our intel team brings things right out of
the meetings. When people constantly attack our credibility, consistenly
saying we're lying, etc. I have to respond. They're trying their best
because intel changes by the hour. In fact today it changed several times.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM:
Q - Is this the dinar and dong and not the GCR? A - This is all we're
seeing but the others should follow. We're waiting to find out.
Q - Will our rates be the same as the elite? A - As far as I know you are right.
That was part of last night's agreement. The UST was supposed to be the one
to announce this and put it out. Apparently something else happened outside
that meeting and everybody is running around helter-skelter trying to
figure out what's next. The bank and call center people are there.
Conflicting info is that the 800#s will be out tonight or within 24 hours
after they figure this out. UST source says "we're doing this
together."
Q - If the CBI has released it how can the dealers still sell? A - They
haven't changed the site yet. Until they see the rates on Forex they'll
keep selling, until the rates are visible to the public they'll keep
selling.
Q - What about taxes for CE at dealers vs. banks? A - I have no idea on
what the tax situation will be. I'm preparing for the worst (50%).
PAM - DC is here!
LIVE CALL-IN STARTING NOW. T = TONY | C = CALLER
T - If/when we deposit into a US bank making millions, what is your feeling
about putting it all in one account. T - At the initial exchange it's all
going in one account. When you meet later with your PB or WM you can set up
other accounts. I'm okay if you put $40M in one account and move it later.
That should be fine. I still don't know the timeframe with cashier's
checks. It may take longer to process them, so check with your bank.
C - I plan to diversify to 5 banks, but the initial deposit is what I was
concerned about. Interest or non-interest-bearing? T - There are 5M people
looking to get this done. I'm putting into interest-bearing accounts.
C - This is a roller coaster that's insane. I'm not superfantastic today.
I'm frustrated. What hope really is there that this will happen before
Christmas? T - I think it's really happening right now. We're supposed to
see it and supposed to have it. They're bringing in the bank people and
it's supposed to go. Per DC, I can say this: everybody is trying to get
over on everybody else, making the best deals, where can I take advantage,
etc.? At some point, like now, they say "wait a minute: they pulled one
over on us."
T - Here's the deal: China put together a deal with the groups. That deal
got screwed up a little bit. So the inital course of action wasn't as it
should have been. They were supposed to get one rate and us another rate.
However, now that everybody is on the same rate they feel they offered too
much. It's still in motion, even though they're saying it's done or not
done. At the last minute, even with the rates live, somebody still wants
something else done.
T - We're giving you in-the-moment, today info. We have verified that the
$3.85 is a live rate in several countries. So we know it is an
international rate, it's just a matter of when it will come to us. This
morning at 5AM there was a signed agreement and I expected the 800#s. It's
for real and it's live. DC - Bottom line is that we've never had it showing
up in 7 different countries as a live rate, never had announcements in Iraq
with parties in the streets, never had the world tell us "we're
going" and they actually go. T - This time it wasn't a bluff and they
actually did it. DC - Washington, DC was taken aback by this. This caught a
lot of people flat-footed in a good way for us.
C - We've heard for the last 3 weeks that "they're in the call
centers, security is called in, etc." Who's paying for all of that? T
- The UST is paying one bank and the others will make it up. The difference
between today and the past 72 hours is that the meetings took place, signed
agreements, and the IMF made it international in 7 countries and it
continues to roll out. They're doing it a country at a time and uploading
it themselves. That's why we're having the problems we have.
C - Do all the banks have to have the same rates? T - No. However, if you
go in and try to negotiate they'll put you at the end of the line. No
negotiating. Their sole purpose is to get you to leave your money there.
You can negotiate the bank fees/spreads. But the rates should be
competitive.
C - Is the UST supposed to release to us? What about the IMF? T - The UST
was supposed to release it to the world so it would go through the system.
But because the IMF is releasing it it's taking longer through their system
because it's a different way. I don't know what it does to the system. But
they've been scrambling since this morning to get this done, possibly
tonight, because everyone else is getting it manually from the IMF. Nobody
expected this, thinking they were bluffing. This morning somebody said
"enough is enough."
T - We are just waiting on the 800#s so we can go to the bank. I'm getting
timeframes as we speak. Hopefully tonight they're expecting it to be it. We
should wake up to it in the morning. I don't know if we will, but we
should.
C - Can I transfer funds at the main appointment? T - You've got 20
minutes, so don't plan on opening 4-5 accounts. They are being timed. The
call center has 2 minutes to make your appointment. Go to the location they
assign you to then you can go to your local branch afterwards and transfer
among other accounts.
C - If there is a contract rate, per Stage2Omega, for those of us needing
immediate cash at the lower rates there may be traps that will disqualify
us from the larger rates. Any info about that? T - there are no traps of
any form or fashion. No one will stop you from cashing out at any place.
You aren't getting the US contract rate at a foreign bank. They are not
going to call WF or another bank and tell them not to let you cash out.
NOTE: TONY DROPPED FROM CALL...PLEASE STAND BY
CALL RESUMING NOW...
T - Since the IMF released it and it's international the NDA might not be
enforceable, or could just be for the contract rate. If the UST does its
release tonight all of them should go.
T - If the IQN is live right now, or goes live in our country, would you
really care when they do the VNN, if you can buy as much as you want?
That's why I think they'll release them together.
T - We have info coming from a bunch of different sources, IMF, UST, banks,
and they're hearing the questions and coming back with responses. You're
not getting that anywhere else. I give credit to our team.
C - Will the ZIM be in the same basket? T - They are all scheduled to go at
the same time. However, the IQN went today and the others didn't and we
don't know why. Hopefully somebody listening can find out and tell us.
C - Earlier today you said there's a bank where you can cashout at .07. T -
We redid the numbers and 1 $25K note = $17. But that rate was different
this morning. That particular bank had a different live buy rate. Sometimes
we get it wrong - not my fault, it's Rays - LOL!
C - What's the procedure for those of us who don't have much dinar? T - My
understanding, what we've been told, is that you can cashout a $25K note in
a branch without calling an 800#. They may give you a pamphlet and tell you
to call for an appointment. But you can walk in a branch and probably just
do your exchange.
C - What about those who don't have any accounts anywhere? T - Choose a
bank carefully, walk in and deposit it. They'll open an account for you.
C - When we go to the bank do we ask for the IQN or the contract rate? T -
Supposedly if you call the 800# they'll schedule you for the contract rate.
This morning nobody expected that. Right now today they're running around
changing things to get prepared. We're still trying to get answers because
things have changed. When we hear the RV is live and the 800#s are
released, we'll do this again.
C - Does Mr. DC know if the budget bill includes the new tax rate? T - He
does not know.
T - Hopefully this will happen in the middle of the night so we can talk
all about it before the banks open. Hopefully we'll have some leeway.
They've always said they wanted to put the 800#s out then have people in
banks within 2 hours of that release.
C - Are you keeping the currencies separated? T - Yes, they are tracking
them differently. Keep them separated.
C - Would this not have happened this week if the IMF had stepped in? T -
Probably not. But this morning we got info that the UST was working with
the IMF, or they're trying to catch up. They didn't expect it.
[FLPatriot59] REPEAT QUESTIONS WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED....
C - You said today about when you mentioned $3.85 being able to go to the
bank. Is that for sure tomorrow you know or it's not live yet? T - We in
this country are not live yet but now that the IMF has done what they did,
this should keep going through the night and start popping up everywhere.
C - If the VIPs got their rates, why didn't they extend that to us - from
$32 to $3.85? T - I could answer you and say they're being selfish and
egotistical. But there's always a game afoot, something always going on in
the background. Someone else is always trying to one-up someone else. It's
not about what's easy or they would have released it to us earlier this
year. I can tell you this: when I said the UST was incompetent, they didn't
like that. They didn't want it to be messed up like Obamacare. Guys on the
4th floor didn't know what guys on the 1st floor were doing. No sharing of
info. I'm not saying people were wrong or lying, but they had just pieces
of the info.
C - Is there a limit to the amount of Cashier's Checks we can get? T - Yes,
it's based on the balance in your bank account.
T - Just getting info that Iraq is saying $3.84 is their international rate
(from a gov't official).
C - Will we know the contract rate when the 800#s comes out? T - Yes, when
the 800#s come out we will now it all. I'm still hearing $32.
T - The minimum here we would get is $5 and $1.16.
C - What is the rate for the VND? T - $1.16 or $6. We won't know until the
800#s come out.
C - Do you think this is the best day so far? T - Yes, absoiutely! A whole
bunch of people are saying it's international and they have their own SWIFT
codes. They are doing everything all the other countries can do except that
we're not cashing out yet. More and more countries will go through the
night because the IMF released.
C - I'm getting nervous about the 30 days which started Dec. 1. Are we
still on that same clock? T - I really don't want to say, but I feel
comfortable saying yes but they don't think it will take that long. They
really don't care that it's Christmas because they have their money and
they're already buying their Christmas gifts. I would make it my intention
to have it done by the end of the month.
C - Is this taking 24-48 hours because the IMF is downloading one country
at a time? T -They are hoping to see it tonight. There are 2 shifts in by
8-9-10PM. I do expect us to wake up to it in the morning one way or
another. C - People are very upset that others got $30 and we get $5. T -
If we get the contract rate we will get more than we thought we'd ever get.
If we get $5 and $1 we'll be glad.
C - What are the names of the dealers you think are less than reputable? T
- All I can tell you is that, over the years I tried to be subtle. When you
do find out when it does happen you'll remember what I said. There are a
lot of them that have been shut down. You should know how they are
operating now by the way they treat you.
C - A number of players have been involved in this, mostly Iraq, IMF, etc.
No mention of JL, CL, Chinese, etc. Is that by design to disconnect them
from the execution of this? T - It's because if I'm giving you countries or
agencies, it's not personal. If I name names people will want to talk to
that guy. It would be more confusing, i.e., how money was moved around, how
some countries were blackmailed into doing certain things, etc. If I do
tell you there's nothing you can do about it. It's the way governments
really work. Nothing like what you see on CNN or the 6 o'clock news.
C - Regarding bank checks, I've checked with 2 banks' PB and was told you
can take a bank check and deposit/cash the same day in another Big 4 bank.
C - Regarding oil credits, do those credits flow thru those banks if they
are in other countries? T - Yes, they would go through those banks to their
own country where it's exchanged at.
C - if the PTB are interested if you were to take 4 million people spending
$100 for Christmas it would be $2-400B. T - They know it will happen even
in the 1st 4 days even though the #'s won't come out until January. It will
definitely have a positive impact on the economy.
C - Going back to Vietnam, are they trying to find a way to compensate
people for their past service? T - No, I can tell you that. This is more
future-related than the past.
C - Does any credit associated with the VND go to the Chinese? T - The 2
are tied together. The US got more IQD and China got more the VND. They got
credit for moving money around. It's part of the overall GCR.
C - If we exchange at a US bank the dinar goes for oil credits, regardless
of whether it's at $5 or $30? T - It won't affect the rate. The rate it
comes out at is to stimulate our economy based on what was agreed to in the
contract.
C - At the time of exchange will we be able to get cashier's checks? T -
Possibly, but if not go to a local branch because they money will be in
your account.
C - We knew that the UST was to pull the trigger on this deal, and if not,
the IMF would do it, which means we would get $3.85. Is that what happened
today? T - The $5 rate was always part of the threat. But today I heard
that the $32 rate was still in play. They were blind-sided by this whole
thing today.
C - Did you hear about the post that says there are 40M dinar holders and
they could only cash out $20M each? T - Last year we had a group that used
scare tactics like that. I do not believe there are 40M - nowhere near
that. Even with your cousins and relatives, there are only 5M. If 40M
people had don't you think somebody would have talked by now? It would be
in the news. I don't know where people get this stuff from. There have not
been 5M different people who have purchased from the exchangers and they
have been audited.
C - Do you think the odds on the contract rate tonight are better than
50/50? T - Yes, better than 50/50.
C - Did the IMF release the rates for the other currencies beside the IQD?
T - No, I don't know. I already answered this.
T - We still have a lot of unanswered questions. I'm already getting texts
and someone has contacted me with an update. I'm going to work through the
evening to get answers. If something superfantastic happens I'll do a tweet
or a blast. 800#s could be tonight - after midnight going into the morning.
Enjoy the night - things are definitely happening and it's a day we've been
waiting for. Things are definitely happening and should look different
tonight and tomorrow morning.
END OF CALL.
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